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The Future of the Fight to End Abortion After Dobbs with David Closson

In Today's episode of the CBL Podcast, William Wolfe sits down with David Closson, Director of the Center for Biblical Worldview at the Family Research Council, to discuss the state of the pro-life movement, challenges after the Dobbs decision, the federal vs. state debate, and Closson's new book "Life After Roe: Equipping Christians in the Fight for Life Today."
Show Notes:
Purchase "Life After Roe" – https://www.lifeway.com/en/product/life-after-roe-P005846462
Timestamps:
0:01:19 - Introduction of David Closson
0:05:00 - Discussion of COVID-19 experiences
0:06:42 - Dobbs decision leak and initial reactions
0:10:00 - Media commentary on Christians and abortion
0:14:23 - George Barna survey on church views about abortion
0:25:00 - Biblical passages about life (Luke 1 example)
0:37:08 - Christianity historical stance on abortion
0:44:04 - State-level ballot measures after Dobbs decision
0:52:55 - Equal protection under law for unborn children
0:54:30 - Chemical abortion pills and challenges
1:00:28 - Moral and spiritual reflection on the scourge of abortion
1:04:00 - Book availability and resources
David Closson serves as the Director of the Center for Biblical Worldview at Family Research Council where he researches, writes, and speaks about life, human sexuality, religious liberty, and related issues from a biblical worldview. He is the author of FRC's Biblical Worldview Series, which seeks to help Christians and Christian leaders apply the teachings of the Bible to difficult moral questions. Currently, David is a Ph.D. candidate in Christian Ethics at Southwestern Seminary. David is a graduate of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary (M.Div., Th.M.) and the University of Central Florida (B.A., political science, cum laude). David lives in the Washington, D.C. area and is a member of Capitol Hill Baptist Church.
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https://www.frc.org/david-closson#gsc.tab=0
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CBL at the White House: Faith Office Policy Roundtable and Prayer for President Trump

In Today's episode of the CBL Podcast, William Wolfe details his recent visit to the White House with President Trump for the Faith Office Policy Roundtable.
Timestamps:
02:38 Overview of White House Faith Office
07:00 Concerns About Previous Administration:
10:00 Listening Session Details:
15:00 Pro-Life Policies and Personnel:
18:00 Immigration Policies and Family Protection
21:00  Religious Liberty and Global Support for Christians:
23:38 Meeting with President Trump
30:00 Reflections on the Day and Future Plans
William Wolfe is the Founder and Executive Director of the Center for Baptist Leadership. He has been a part of the Southern Baptist Convention for 13 years. After spending a decade living and working in Washington D.C., including for three Members of Congress, Heritage Action for America, as a Director at the State Department, and as a Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense at the DoD, William moved to Louisville, KY, to complete his seminary education in person. During that time, he became increasingly involved in much-needed work to revitalize the SBC as an institution, and the launch of CBL is an outgrowth of that work. Combining his experience in public policy and political strategy with his theological education and knowledge of the SBC, William has become a widely respected and authoritative commentator on the role of the SBC in broader American evangelicalism and the intersection of faith and politics in our nation. His work has been published in major outlets like Newsweek, The American Conservative, Christian Post, American Reformer, Daily Signal, The Federalist, and Daily Caller, etc., for think tanks like The Center for Renewing America, and for Christian publications such as 9 Marks and Founders Ministries. He also serves as a regular contributor to Liberty University’s Standing for Freedom Center. He completed the Pastoral Internship program at Capitol Hill Baptist Church and the Presidential Internship at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. He has a B.A. in History from Covenant College and an M.Div. from SBTS.
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Has Wheaton Gone Woke? The Russ Vought Controversy and Fallout

In Today's episode of the CBL Podcast, William Wolfe is joined by Eric Teetsel, CEO of Center for Renewing America and 2006 Wheaton Alum, and Daniel Davis, Washington DC Communications Strategist and 2014 Wheaton Alum, to answer a very pressing question: "Has Wheaton Gone Woke?"
 
#ForWheaton #WheatonCollege #RussVought #Alumni #EricTeetsel #DanielDavis
 
ShowNotes:
https://forwheaton.org/
https://firstthings.com/god-and-man-at-wheaton/
https://americanreformer.org/2025/02/closing-the-door-to-the-classroom/
 
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction and Context of the Discussion
03:46 Wheaton College's Recent Controversy
06:52 Reactions to Wheaton's Response
11:07 The Drift of Wheaton College
15:11 Leadership and Institutional Integrity
20:59 The Call for Change at Wheaton
25:24 Organizing for Institutional Change
31:38 The Future of Wheaton College
 
Eric Teetsel most recently was Vice President of Government Relations at The Heritage Foundation. Teetsel has a long track record of experience in government at the federal, state, and local levels. He was Chief of Staff to U.S. Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri where he also held the roles of Legislative Director and Special Assistant. Teetsel previously served as President of the Family Policy Alliance of Kansas, Director of Faith Outreach for the Marco Rubio presidential campaign, and Executive Director of the Manhattan Declaration for life, marriage, and religious freedom, and more. Teetsel graduated from Wheaton College and holds a master’s in education from Azusa Pacific University. Originally from Kansas, he and his wife live in Virginia with their four children.
 
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https://x.com/ericteetsel
 
Daniel Davis is a Communications Strategist working in Washington D.C. He graduated from Wheaton College in 2014 and is a signatory at ForWheaton.org. 
 
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Ordo Amoris: Christian or Not? JD Vance defends Righty Ordered Loves and the Left Loses their Minds

In Today's episode of the CBL Podcast, William Wolfe is joined by Nick Spencer, Director of Public Policy for The Family Foundation of Kentucky, and Daniel Strand, Professor of Ethics at the Air War College, to discuss Vice President JD Vance's recent comments on Christian principles, "ordo amoris," and the poor reactions from liberals and woke theologians. 
Nick Spencer serves as the Director of Policy for The Family Foundation, a nonprofit organization that stands for Kentucky families and the biblical values that make them strong by advocating for God-honoring public policy in the Commonwealth. Following completion of his B.A. and Master of Divinity degrees, he held the role of Associate Pastor at Southern Baptist churches in Missouri and Ohio. Before joining The Family Foundation, he worked for First Liberty Institute in Washington, DC. He is also a Ph.D. candidate in Christian Ethics and Public Theology at Southern Seminary where his research focuses on the role of the family in the Church’s political and cultural engagement.
Learn more about Nick Spencer's work:https://www.kentuckyfamily.org/team/nick-spencer/ https://www.x.com/nspencer513 
Daniel Strand is Assistant Professor of Ethics at the Air War College and Ethics Chair for Air University. He is the author of the forthcoming Gods of the Nations (Cambridge University Press), a study of Augustine's political theology in City of God. His views are his own and do not represent those of the US Government.
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Andrew Tate, Biblical Masculinity, and Big Eva (ft. John Moody & Ethan Jago)

In Today's LIVE episode of the CBL Podcast, William Wolfe is joined by John Moody and Ethan Jago to debate biblical masculinity.
 
John Moody is a farmer, homesteader, author, speaker, and activist who co-founded the Rogue Food Conference with Joel Salatin. The conference is an annual event that brings together innovative thinkers and passionate advocates to challenge the status quo of the food industry and promote local and sustainable food production. It showcases individuals and organizations that have found creative solutions to navigate regulatory hurdles and bring nutrient-dense, local, and authentic food to their communities. Moody runs the Whole Life Food Buyers Club in Louisville, Kentucky, a successful operation providing quality food to its members
 
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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/homesteaders-of-america/id1516101147
 
Dr. Ethan Jago is the Lead Pastor at 5 Bridges Church in Panama City Beach, Florida. He is a graduate of Liberty University, holding a Doctor of Ministry in Theology with a focus on the reliability of New Testament/Textual Criticism. He served in the USAF as a Survival Evasion Resistance and Escape (SERE) Specialist for 15 years and as a Private Military Contractor for four years. Ethan hosts the Battlefield Theologian Podcast and YouTube channel, providing sound doctrine for everyday people through digital media. He co-authored an a study through 1 & 2 Peter with his wife Dianne, released in October 2024. Ethan also is the founder and owner of Sola Gratia Jiu Jitsu. Ethan and Dianne have three children.
 
Learn more about Ethan Jago's work at:
https://www.ethanjago.com/about
 
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God’s Mercy on America: How Trump’s First Week Proves It’s Time for Christians to Seize the Moment (ft. David Schrock & Joe Rigney)

In Today's episode of the CBL Podcast, William Wolfe is joined by David Schrock, Pastor of Preaching at Occoquan Bible Church, and Joe Rigney, Associate Pastor at Christ Church and Author of "Leadership & Emotional Sabotage," to discuss Donald Trump's second Inauguration, the impact of his first week back in office and what's in store for the future.
 
David Schrock is the Pastor of Preaching and Theology at Occoquan Bible Church (Woodbridge, Virginia). He is an Adjunct Professor of Systematic Theology (Indianapolis Theological Seminary, Boyce College, and The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary; previously, Crossroads Bible College) and Associate Fellow for the Ethics and Religious Liberties Commission. He is married to his wife, Wendy, and together they have four children.
 
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https://davidschrock.com
 
Dr. Joe Rigney is an Associate Pastor at Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho and serves as Fellow of Theology at New Saint Andrews College. He is the author of seven books: Live Like a Narnian: Christian Discipleship in Lewis’s Chronicles (Eyes & Pen, 2013); The Things of Earth: Treasuring God by Enjoying His Gifts (Crossway, 2015); Lewis on the Christian Life: Becoming Truly Human in the Presence of God (Crossway, 2018); Strangely Bright: Can You Love God and Enjoy This World? (Crossway, 2020); More Than a Battle: Experiencing Victory, Freedom, and Healing from Lust (B&H, 2021), Courage: How the Gospel Creates Christian Fortitude (Crossway, 2023), and Leadership and Emotional Sabotage (Canon Press, 2024). Previously, Dr. Rigney served as a professor and president of Bethlehem College & Seminary in Minneapolis, a pastor at Cities Church in St. Paul, and a teacher at Desiring God. Joe lives in Moscow, Idaho with his wife Jenny and three sons.
 
Learn more about Joe Rigney's work at:
https://nsa.edu/contributors/joe-rigney
https://emotionalsabotage.com
 
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From Foot Soldiers to Leaders Evangelicals in the Conservative Movement (ft. Derrick Morgan)

In Today's episode of the CBL Podcast, William Wolfe is joined by Derrick Morgan, Executive Vice President of The Heritage Foundation, to discuss Derrick's journey from a non-religious upbringing to becoming a Southern Baptist leader. He highlights his early interest in politics, influenced by his pro-life views and basketball involvement. Morgan emphasizes the importance of excellence in work and the role of Christians in public policy.
 
Derrick Morgan is Executive Vice President of The Heritage Foundation where he oversees the policy, communications, and government relations functions under the leadership of Heritage President Dr. Kevin Roberts. Morgan has worked in the business, government, legal, political, and policy sectors. In business, Morgan led the American Fuel and Petrochemical Manufacturers’ advocacy efforts, testified before Congress, and spoke and wrote widely about fuels and the future of transportation. In government, law, and politics, Morgan served in all three branches of government including four senators and one representative in roles from campaign aide to chief of staff.
 
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https://twitter.com/ddmorganindc
 
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Regime Change in Syria: What Christians Need to Know (ft. Brandon J. Weichert)

In today's episode of the CBL Podcast, William Wolfe is joined by foreign policy expert Brandon Weichert to discuss everything going on in Syria. Watch the livestream here: 
 
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Brandon J. Weichert is a former Congressional staffer and geopolitical analyst who is a contributor at The Washington Times, as well as at the Asia Times. He is the author of Winning Space: How America Remains a Superpower (Republic Book Publishers), Biohacked: China’s Race to Control Life (Encounter Books), and The Shadow War: Iran’s Quest for Supremacy (Republic Book Publishers). Weichert occasionally serves as a Subject Matter Expert for various organizations, including the Department of Defense.
 
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https://theweichertreport.wordpress.com/
https://nationalinterest.org/profile/brandon-j-weichert
 
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Evangelical Elites vs. Donald Trump: Why It’s Good Trump Won and What to Expect Next (ft. Eric Teetsel)

In Today's episode of the CBL Podcast, William Wolfe sits down with Eric Teetsel, Executive Vice President of the Center for Renewing America to discuss the role of Christians in politics, the impact of Trump's public policy on immigration, trade, abortion, families, and what's at stake in the years to come.
 
#WilliamWolfe #EricTeetsel #Evangelical #Immigration #FamilySeparation #Border #Trade #Tariffs #DonaldTrump #JoeBiden #2024 #TrumpAdministration
 
Eric Teetsel most recently was Vice President of Government Relations at The Heritage Foundation. Teetsel has a long track record of experience in government at the federal, state, and local levels. He was Chief of Staff to U.S. Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri where he also held the roles of Legislative Director and Special Assistant. Teetsel previously served as President of the Family Policy Alliance of Kansas, Director of Faith Outreach for the Marco Rubio presidential campaign, and Executive Director of the Manhattan Declaration for life, marriage, and religious freedom, and more. Teetsel graduated from Wheaton College and holds a master’s in education from Azusa Pacific University. Originally from Kansas, he and his wife live in Virginia with their four children.
 
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2024 Election Livestream (ft. David Schrock & Steve Gentry)

In Today's LIVE episode of the CBL Podcast, William Wolfe sits down with David Schrock & Steve Gentry to discuss why Christians must vote and what is at stake in the 2024 election.
 
#WilliamWolfe #DavidSchrock #SteveGentry #Election #Trump #Harris #Abortion #Character #Values #Faith #Christian #Baptist #Vote #Results
 
Steve Gentry, Ph.D. is the Lead Pastor of Village Church in Midlothian Virginia. He has an M.A. in Pastoral Counseling, M.Div. Theology and Apologetics, Th.M Christian Apologetics, D.Min. Expository Preaching and Teaching.
 
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David Schrock is the Pastor of Preaching and Theology at Occoquan Bible Church (Woodbridge, Virginia). He is an Adjunct Professor of Systematic Theology (Indianapolis Theological Seminary, Boyce College, and The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary; previously, Crossroads Bible College) and Associate Fellow for the Ethics and Religious Liberties Commission. He is married to his wife, Wendy, and together they have four children.
 
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