Center for Baptist Leadership
The Center for Baptist Leadership podcast aims to cultivate courageous and biblical Baptist leadership for 21st-century America. Our mission is to revitalize the Southern Baptist Convention from within, defend it from those who seek its destruction, and serve as a better Baptist voice in the public square. Learn more at www.centerforbaptistleadership.org.
Episodes

4 days ago
4 days ago
In today's episode of the Center for Baptist Leadership podcast, William Wolfe sits down with Robert Burns, Mayor of Monroe in North Carolina, to discuss political persecution for being an outspoken Christian leader.
Robert Burns is the Mayor of Monroe, North Carolina, elected in November 2023 after a historic coin-toss victory following a tied election with 970 votes. A Christian, husband, and father of six, Burns is a conservative Republican known for his outspoken leadership and commitment to economic growth, public safety, and family values. He has focused on revitalizing downtown Monroe, expanding infrastructure, and attracting new industries. Burns, a newcomer to politics, emphasizes transparency and community engagement, often using social media and his YouTube channel to connect with residents. His tenure has faced controversy, including a 2024 censure by the Monroe City Council over a proclamation celebrating the Roe v. Wade reversal and a 2025 no-confidence vote for his communication style and use of city branding. Despite this, Burns remains committed to making Monroe a thriving, family-friendly city.
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https://www.monroenc.org/directory.aspx?eid=153
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6 days ago
6 days ago
In today's episode of the Center for Baptist Leadership podcast, William Wolfe sits down with Ambassador Designee for International Religious Freedom at the State Department, former Congressman and Pastor, Mark Walker, to discuss the global fight for religious freedom, working with President Trump, and his service as a pastor and congressman.
Mark Walker is an American politician and former pastor who served as a U.S. Representative for North Carolina's 6th congressional district from 2015 to 2021. A member of the Republican Party, Walker was elected to lead the Republican Study Committee in 2017 and served as vice chair of the House Republican Conference in 2019. In 2024, Walker joined Donald Trump's presidential campaign as director of faith and minority outreach. On April 10, 2025, President Trump announced his intention to nominate Walker as the U.S. Ambassador at Large for International Religious Freedom, a position within the State Department.
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Thursday Jul 03, 2025
The Four Groups in the SBC and Every Other Denomination (ft. Michael Clary)
Thursday Jul 03, 2025
Thursday Jul 03, 2025
In today's episode of the Center for Baptist Leadership podcast, William Wolfe sits down with Pastor Michael Clary to discuss the four groups within the SBC: the Platform, which controls the agenda; the Reformers, advocating for transparency and reform; the Loyalists, aspiring to join the Platform; and the Normies, ordinary pastors unaware of internal issues.
Michael Clary is the Lead Pastor of Christ the King Church in Cincinnati, OH, co-founder of King’s Domain ministries, and author of God’s Good Design: A Biblical, Theological, and Practical Guide to Human Sexuality. He graduated from the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in 2008 with a Master of Divinity.
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https://www.dmichaelclary.com/
https://www.christthekingnky.com/staff
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Monday Jun 09, 2025
New Boss, Same Problems: Four More Years of Failure at the ERLC Part 2
Monday Jun 09, 2025
Monday Jun 09, 2025
In today's part 2 episode of the Center for Baptist Leadership podcast, William Wolfe sits down with John Whitehead, an Attorney and ERLC Trustee to discuss the ongoing issues at the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC) under Brent Leatherwood's leadership. Whitehead lays out the facts of Kevin Smith's resignation, why Leatherwood was terminated only to be rehired, the lack of transparency and accountability within the ERLC, and most notability the board's reluctance to engage in good governance.
Show Notes:
https://centerforbaptistleadership.org/cbl-at-sbc/
Jon Whitehead is a lifelong Southern Baptist and the founding attorney of the Law Offices of Jonathan R. Whitehead LLC, located in Missouri. He is a Trustee of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC), a former President of the Kansas City Lawyers’ Chapter of the Federalist Society, a 2002 Blackstone Fellow, and a graduate of Southwest Baptist University and Harvard Law School. He represents nonprofits in litigation, with deep experience in religious congregations and ministries.
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Saturday Jun 07, 2025
Saturday Jun 07, 2025
In today's episode of the Center for Baptist Leadership podcast, William Wolfe sits down with John Whitehead, an Attorney and ERLC Trustee to discuss the ongoing issues at the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC) of the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC). Whitehead criticizes the lack of change since Russell Moore's departure, highlighting the commission's poor management, understaffing, and controversial actions, such as signing a letter opposing an abortion abolition bill and advocating for increased military aid to Ukraine. Whitehead also raises concerns about the ERLC's ties to the Evangelical Immigration Table, which is influenced by George Soros funding, as well as the lack of transparency and accountability within the organization.
Show Notes:
https://centerforbaptistleadership.org/cbl-at-sbc/
Jon Whitehead is a lifelong Southern Baptist and the founding attorney of the Law Offices of Jonathan R. Whitehead LLC, located in Missouri. He is a Trustee of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC), a former President of the Kansas City Lawyers’ Chapter of the Federalist Society, a 2002 Blackstone Fellow, and a graduate of Southwest Baptist University and Harvard Law School. He represents nonprofits in litigation, with deep experience in religious congregations and ministries.
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Wednesday Jun 04, 2025
Wednesday Jun 04, 2025
Keynote Address from SBC at a Crossroads, hosted by Center for Baptist Leadership and Founders Ministries at the 2024 SBC Annual Meeting.
Show Notes:https://centerforbaptistleadership.org/cbl-at-sbc/
Megan Basham is a Rotten Tomatoes-approved critic and a culture reporter for The Daily Wire and a frequent contributor to Morning Wire. In her previous role as an entertainment editor and podcast co-host for World Magazine, she interviewed numerous A-list celebrities. She has also written for The Wall Street Journal, National Review, and Townhall. She is the author of multiple books including, "Beside Every Successful Man," and "Shepherds for Sale."
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Monday Jun 02, 2025
Monday Jun 02, 2025
In Today's episode of the CBL Podcast, William Wolfe sits down with Lewis Richerson, Lead Pastor of Woodlawn Baptist Church, to discuss the state of the SBC heading into the annual meeting, issues with the ERLC, the need for financial transparency, and also theological clarity through the law amendment.
Show Notes:
https://centerforbaptistleadership.org/cbl-at-sbc/
Pastor Lewis came to Woodlawn in May 2012. He previously served at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in various capacities from 2005-2012 where he also received his Master of Divinity with Biblical Languages (M.Div.) and Doctorate of Philosophy in Preaching (Ph.D.) degrees. Lewis began his pastoral ministry in 1999, while a senior in high school, as an interim pastor in rural Rapides Parish, Louisiana. That experience, along with his other ministry experiences (he served churches in Louisiana and Texas) have given him a passion for people and the Word of God. In addition to leading in the local church, Pastor Lewis has been instrumental in launching a ministry in India that includes an accredited Bible college and seminary, church planting efforts all over India, an orphan ministry, and pastor training.
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https://www.wbcbr.org/contributor/lewis-richerson
https://twitter.com/LewisRicherson
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Saturday May 31, 2025
The Danbury Institute and SBC 2025 with Scott Colter
Saturday May 31, 2025
Saturday May 31, 2025
In Today's episode of the CBL Podcast, William Wolfe sits down with Scott Colter, Chairman & CEO of The Danbury Institute, to discuss SBC 2025, why and how Christians should engage in politics, and the upcoming Life and Liberty Forum at the Southern Baptist Convention which will feature key speakers and discussions on religious liberty and abortion.
Scott Colter is the Chairman and CEO of The Danbury Institute. The Danbury Institute is an association of churches, Christians, and organizations aligned to affirm and preserve God-given rights to life and liberty by influencing culture and public policy, upholding the free exercise of religion, inspiring the vigorous involvement of an informed citizenry, and promoting Judeo-Christian values as the proper foundation for a free and prosperous republic.
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Friday May 30, 2025
Friday May 30, 2025
In Today's episode of the CBL Podcast, William Wolfe sits down with Mark Harris, United States Congressman (R-NC), Pastor of Trinity Baptist Church, and former North Carolina State Baptist Convention president, to discuss the SBC's drift towards "wokeism," why Christians must engage in politics, and the need for a spiritual awakening to restore American greatness.
Dr. Harris accepted the call to come to Trinity Baptist Church in February of 2020. He earned his undergraduate degree from Appalachian State University in 1987. Upon answering God’s call to ministry that same year, Dr. Harris enrolled at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in Wake Forest, NC, where he would earn both his Master of Divinity degree and his Doctor of Ministry degree in Christian Leadership. Dr. Harris has served as Senior Pastor of three other Southern Baptist churches over the last 30 years
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https://markharris.house.gov
https://trinitybaptist.com/staff/
https://x.com/MarkHarrisNC8/photo
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Tuesday May 20, 2025
Tuesday May 20, 2025
In Today's episode of the CBL Podcast, William Wolfe sits down with Dr. Willy Rice, Senior Pastor of Calvary Church in Clearwater, Florida, to discuss what has gone wrong with the ERLC, the need for renewed trust through financial transparency, the law amendment, and what's in store for this year's SBC annual meeting in Dallas, Texas.
Dr. Willy Rice, and his wife, Cheryl, are invested in building relationships to bring people to dynamic life in Christ! Willy has pastored churches in the south eastern United States for more than 35 years, and he has a passion for teaching the Word of God in an engaging and understandable way. Willy was called, licensed and ordained to preach at Calvary under the leadership of Dr. Bill Anderson, who pastored Calvary Church for 27 years. Willy Rice returned to Calvary in 2004 to lead the church he considered his home. Dr. Willy Rice is a graduate of Samford University in Birmingham, Alabama with a B.A. degree (1985) and the New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary with a Master of Divinity degree (1990) and a Doctor of Ministry degree (1996). Willy and Cheryl have three children, Amanda, Anna, and Stephen, and six beautiful grandchildren.
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https://erlc.com/people/willy-rice/
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Our Vision
Our vision is oriented toward a future where Baptists lead American evangelicals back to a confident, convictional, and hopeful Christ-filled future, both in America and worldwide. Given the SBC’s prominent role in American religious life, restoring its mission fidelity and reinvigorating its institutions will play a key role in realizing this vision.