Center for Baptist Leadership
The Center for Baptist Leadership podcast aims to cultivate courageous and biblical Baptist leadership for 21st-century America. Our mission is to revitalize the Southern Baptist Convention from within, defend it from those who seek its destruction, and serve as a better Baptist voice in the public square. Learn more at www.centerforbaptistleadership.org.
The Center for Baptist Leadership podcast aims to cultivate courageous and biblical Baptist leadership for 21st-century America. Our mission is to revitalize the Southern Baptist Convention from within, defend it from those who seek its destruction, and serve as a better Baptist voice in the public square. Learn more at www.centerforbaptistleadership.org.
Episodes

Thursday Sep 04, 2025
Thursday Sep 04, 2025
In today's episode of the Center for Baptist Leadership podcast, William Wolfe sits down with Colby Barrett, to discuss his new documentary, "A Faith Under Siege," exposing Russia's brutal crackdown on faith in occupied Ukraine
Colby Barrett is an entrepreneur, filmmaker, and former U.S. Marine Corps Captain who led infantry and scout/sniper platoons in the Pacific Rim and Middle East.
Watch the documentary, "A Faith Under Siege":
https://www.faithundersiege.com/
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Friday Aug 29, 2025
Friday Aug 29, 2025
In today's episode of the Center for Baptist Leadership podcast, William Wolfe sits down with bi-vocational Pastor, Luke Ash, to discuss his story and legal case after being fired for refusing to use trans pronouns at his job for the Baton Rouge Parish library.
Luke in the News:
https://www.christianpost.com/news/bi-vocational-pastor-fired-library-for-not-using-trans-pronouns.html
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Monday Aug 25, 2025
Monday Aug 25, 2025
In today's episode of the Center for Baptist Leadership podcast, William Wolfe sits down with Nick Sevier, Founder of Biblical Counselors Society, to discuss the state of biblical counseling and soul care, the nefarious encroachment of secularism via so-called "trauma-informed" or "clinically-informed" approaches, the sufficiency of scripture, and how pastors and church leaders can engage with BCS for resources and community support.
Nick Sevier is the Founder and Director of the Biblical Counselors Society, a collaborative community for Classical Biblical Counselors and likeminded church leaders. He holds a BA in Biblical and Theological Studies from Bethlehem College and Seminary, pursued an Advanced MDiv at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, and is completing his Masters of Biblical Counseling at Birmingham Theological Seminary. He is an ACBC and International Association of Biblical Counselors (IABC) Certified Biblical Counselor. Nick lives in South Carolina with his wife, Grace, and adopted daughter. He has over 13 years of counseling experience and two decades of organizational leadership experience. The Biblical Counselors Society, which he founded, provides a private online platform offering 24/7 access to community, collaboration, counseling tools, and courses, aiming to support biblical counselors and strengthen the local church.
Learn more about Nick Sevier's work:
https://www.bcsociety.net/
https://www.biblicalcounselorssociety.com/
Timestamps:
(0:39) - Welcome
(1:39) - Nick Sevier Intro
(2:29) - Founding Biblical Counselor Society (BCS)
(3:19) - What BCS offers to pastors and counselors
(4:04) - Differences between BCS and ACBC
(4:53) - Defining biblical counseling
(7:08) - State of biblical counseling in American evangelicalism
(9:32) - Fault lines between biblical and secular approaches
(10:40 - Exposing so-called "trauma-informed" and "clinically-informed" approaches
(14:27) - Critique of new integrationist approaches
(22:18) - Counseling and the doctrine of sin
(25:12) - Cultural trends in mental health and counseling
(28:54) - The "Lies My Therapist Told Me" book
(31:09) - Bias against men in biblical counseling
(36:28) - Recommended resources and cautions
(42:09) - Soul Care & Sufficiency of Scripture
(46:44) - Concluding remarks & Call to action
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Monday Aug 18, 2025
Will Obergefell be Overturned? (ft. Mathew Staver)
Monday Aug 18, 2025
Monday Aug 18, 2025
In today's episode of the Center for Baptist Leadership podcast, William Wolfe sits down with Mathew Staver, Senior Pastor, Founder and Chairman of Liberty Counsel, to discuss if the Supreme Court Case which sanctioned same-sex marriages, Obergefell v. Hodges, will be overturned?
Mat Staver serves as Senior Pastor, Founder and Chairman of Liberty Counsel. Mat has over 300 published legal opinions. He authored eight scholarly law review publications, many booklets and brochures, hundreds of articles and numerous books, including Why Israel Matters, Faith & Freedom: A Complete Handbook for Defending Your Religious Rights, Same-Sex Marriage: Putting Every Household at Risk, and Eternal Vigilance: Knowing and Protecting Your Religious Freedom. Mat is the host and producer of Faith and Freedom podcast/radio program and Freedom's Call radio program.
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https://lc.org/mat-staver
https://x.com/LibertyCounsel
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Saturday Aug 02, 2025
CBL Report: Leatherwood Leaves the ERLC
Saturday Aug 02, 2025
Saturday Aug 02, 2025
In today's episode of the Center for Baptist Leadership podcast, William Wolfe provides on update on Brent Leatherwood's resignation from the SBC's Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission.
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Friday Jul 18, 2025
Friday Jul 18, 2025
In today's episode of the Center for Baptist Leadership podcast, William Wolfe sits down with Grant Castleberry, Senior Pastor of The King's Chapel, to share personal stories about John MacArthur, his life, and legacy.
Grant Castleberry is the senior pastor of The King’s Chapel, Raleigh, NC and the president and founder of Unashamed Truth Ministries. Grant is a regular contributor to Tabletalk Magazine and the author of the forthcoming, The Honor of God published by Ligonier Ministries. Grant and his wife, GraceAnna, have five children and live in Raleigh.
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https://x.com/grcastleberry
https://unashamedtruth.org/articles/johnmacarthurtribute
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Friday Jul 11, 2025
Friday Jul 11, 2025
In today's episode of the Center for Baptist Leadership podcast, William Wolfe sits down with Robert Burns, Mayor of Monroe in North Carolina, to discuss political persecution for being an outspoken Christian leader.
Robert Burns is the Mayor of Monroe, North Carolina, elected in November 2023 after a historic coin-toss victory following a tied election with 970 votes. A Christian, husband, and father of six, Burns is a conservative Republican known for his outspoken leadership and commitment to economic growth, public safety, and family values. He has focused on revitalizing downtown Monroe, expanding infrastructure, and attracting new industries. Burns, a newcomer to politics, emphasizes transparency and community engagement, often using social media and his YouTube channel to connect with residents. His tenure has faced controversy, including a 2024 censure by the Monroe City Council over a proclamation celebrating the Roe v. Wade reversal and a 2025 no-confidence vote for his communication style and use of city branding. Despite this, Burns remains committed to making Monroe a thriving, family-friendly city.
Learn more about Robert Burns's work:
https://x.com/RobertBurns82
https://www.monroenc.org/directory.aspx?eid=153
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Wednesday Jul 09, 2025
Wednesday Jul 09, 2025
In today's episode of the Center for Baptist Leadership podcast, William Wolfe sits down with Ambassador Designee for International Religious Freedom at the State Department, former Congressman and Pastor, Mark Walker, to discuss the global fight for religious freedom, working with President Trump, and his service as a pastor and congressman.
Mark Walker is an American politician and former pastor who served as a U.S. Representative for North Carolina's 6th congressional district from 2015 to 2021. A member of the Republican Party, Walker was elected to lead the Republican Study Committee in 2017 and served as vice chair of the House Republican Conference in 2019. In 2024, Walker joined Donald Trump's presidential campaign as director of faith and minority outreach. On April 10, 2025, President Trump announced his intention to nominate Walker as the U.S. Ambassador at Large for International Religious Freedom, a position within the State Department.
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https://x.com/repmarkwalker
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Thursday Jul 03, 2025
The Four Groups in the SBC and Every Other Denomination (ft. Michael Clary)
Thursday Jul 03, 2025
Thursday Jul 03, 2025
In today's episode of the Center for Baptist Leadership podcast, William Wolfe sits down with Pastor Michael Clary to discuss the four groups within the SBC: the Platform, which controls the agenda; the Reformers, advocating for transparency and reform; the Loyalists, aspiring to join the Platform; and the Normies, ordinary pastors unaware of internal issues.
Michael Clary is the Lead Pastor of Christ the King Church in Cincinnati, OH, co-founder of King’s Domain ministries, and author of God’s Good Design: A Biblical, Theological, and Practical Guide to Human Sexuality. He graduated from the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in 2008 with a Master of Divinity.
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https://x.com/dmichaelclary
https://www.dmichaelclary.com/
https://www.christthekingnky.com/staff
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Monday Jun 09, 2025
New Boss, Same Problems: Four More Years of Failure at the ERLC Part 2
Monday Jun 09, 2025
Monday Jun 09, 2025
In today's part 2 episode of the Center for Baptist Leadership podcast, William Wolfe sits down with John Whitehead, an Attorney and ERLC Trustee to discuss the ongoing issues at the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC) under Brent Leatherwood's leadership. Whitehead lays out the facts of Kevin Smith's resignation, why Leatherwood was terminated only to be rehired, the lack of transparency and accountability within the ERLC, and most notability the board's reluctance to engage in good governance.
Show Notes:
https://centerforbaptistleadership.org/cbl-at-sbc/
Jon Whitehead is a lifelong Southern Baptist and the founding attorney of the Law Offices of Jonathan R. Whitehead LLC, located in Missouri. He is a Trustee of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC), a former President of the Kansas City Lawyers’ Chapter of the Federalist Society, a 2002 Blackstone Fellow, and a graduate of Southwest Baptist University and Harvard Law School. He represents nonprofits in litigation, with deep experience in religious congregations and ministries.
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https://whiteheadlawllc.com/
https://x.com/jrwhitehead
https://centerforbaptistleadership.org/our-team/
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Our vision is oriented toward a future where Baptists lead American evangelicals back to a confident, convictional, and hopeful Christ-filled future, both in America and worldwide. Given the SBC’s prominent role in American religious life, restoring its mission fidelity and reinvigorating its institutions will play a key role in realizing this vision.








